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Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
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Posted - 2011.11.07 11:51:00 -
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inexistin wrote:So we won't be seeing any other gank ships except for thrashers and uberfitted lvl4 running faction bs' will be pretty much forever safe. Newsworthy.
You forget tier 3 BCs.
The cost of losing an apoc or tempest hull right now is around 35 mil with insurance (before fittings). A tornado will be worth around 40 mil once price settles, and be just as good if not better for ganking.
A price increase of 5 mil per gank is not game changing. The tier 3 BCs with insurance would have been. |
Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
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Posted - 2011.11.07 14:43:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Andski wrote:Very few "PvPers" sell GTCs for ISK to fund themselves. true but the/an they are not pure PvPers, they got at least one alt attached to making iSK, which makes them EVE players. As i stated few posts above.
An EVE Player is someone who plays EVE. That's the only valid definition, not the one you invent yourself. |
Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
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Posted - 2011.11.07 15:06:00 -
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Montevius Williams wrote:Outta curiosity if the enemey brings 50 BS's to gank a Freighter full of really expensive cargo flying through high sec gate to gate instead of autopiloting how is that anywhere near fair to the frieghter pilot? You cant fit it better and gate to gate is the quickest way to do it. You cant fly with support against that many enemies and theres no real way to know if they are coming for you some times even if you have scouts 3 systems out.
I would like to know the answer to this as well.[/quote]
50 BS is a very high estimate. It'll take more like 15 BS to alpha a freighter (you can get away with less, but bring a few extra to make sure).
For each BS, you can count on a 30 mil loss or so, plus, as a bare minimum, 100 mil profit per pilot. So it takes a minimum of 2b in loot to justify the gank. Now, on average, only half the cargo will drop, meaning you need a target with at least 4b in cargo. Not something freighter pilots do every day.
Now, 15 BS waiting around on a gate are easy enough to spot. Just have a friend or alt run 1-2 jumps ahead of you checking the gates and short range scan for a bunch of BS. If you find something suspicious, dock up, take a detour, or split your cargo in smaller chunks.
You will complain other people are forcing you to change your playstyle, but that's just the nature of the game. It's a multiplayer game, and you need to take other people's actions into account. Refusing to do it is like complaining about paying rent to other players in Monopoly. |
Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
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Posted - 2011.11.10 14:37:00 -
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Cearain wrote:I think you may be assuming a tier 3 bc will cost the same as a tier 2 bc. I imagine the price difference will be similar to the price difference between tier 1 bcs and tier 2 bcs.
A Tornado will cost a bit over 40 mil according to the Sisi bpos. A tempest/apoc costs around 35 mil after insurance. Not really a significant increase, and the volley/dps will be the same.
Quote:If suicide ganking was so profitable more people would be doing it. As it is its pretty much only those who want to grief - because the potential for profit is much less than other methods in game.
In my experience, suicide ganking haulers is boring. Profit potential is huge, but in practice, you end up scanning ships for two hours before you find a reasonable target. And then the loot fairies do their thing and only 10% of the isk value drops  |
Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:19:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:have you ever heard about frighters? You know it: big ship with 1mil m3 cargohold? "Obelisk" or something like it. You know: it's a very funny ships - they have no slots to put cloak and they have VERY BAD agility 
Then use scouts or avoid carrying so much stuff you are worth ganking.. |
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